I need to replace 10 wifi wemo dimmers and switches. As I have 75+ Zooz devices, I’d prefer to stick to Zooz.
Main requirement: I need to be able to preset the level BEFORE the light turns on. For example, at 10 pm, the dimmer should be set to 20% through a hub rule WITHOUT the light turning on. Then, every time the light is turned on, it will go to 20%, unless that level has been changed manually or verbally. My current 700 series 2x models and 7x models dimmer turn on when the level is set.
I’m not aware of a way to do this. There is the night light function, but that’s really not what you’re looking for. You can create a scene with a time range, but the light will go to the original setting, then to the new setting (ex, 100%, then to 20%).
Maybe someone smarter than me will know of a way to do this. As I’ve often wondered this too. Currently I’ve just set say my bathroom light to the setting I want, right before my scene that makes sure all my lights are off for the night (so it gets turned right back off).
If you are using the zooz z-hub, you could just make more scenes for turning on the light with a time range like between 5-10 go to “set 20%” , and an other scene with range from 10-12 etc with a new “set 30%” example.
This scenes should not overlap on time then, but can use the same triggers to turn on, Like a motion sensor or the same “scene button” on a zen35 I think
But you have to get used to use a scene button to turn on instead of the main button
Correct me if I am wrong (I am from Norway and cant use this type of rektangular/US devices )
This is just an example since I aint got a scene controller device on my test Hub.
But the red arrow should be a trigger from a scene controller button.
And you should create as many scenes as you need for diffrent time ranges. And the time ranges cant overlap
But I dont know how you dimmer device behave or if it got a parameter to set a “minimum start level” (Some led lights need to go to example 40% to start giving out light, but them can go very low after the first “startup%” )
edit:
If you make a scene that just sends a 20% when the light is off, does your dimmer go to 100% first then down to 20% to`? My lights doesnt not have this behavior as I can think off (dali lights and fibaro dimmer2 ++)
They will remember their last state. So if that was 100% or 40% they turn on at that first, then dim to 20% (or whatever the scene says).
I’ve played with the parameters some to try it get it to happen instantly, but never had much luck. Mine still ramp or down. I know on one of mine I have a set of speakers (the dimmer is actually just being used as a switch) that doesnt particularly like the ramp up/down and tends to eat fuses now every so often.
To clarify, I’m using a Hubitat hub as the controller. I don’t think that makes a difference in my issue.
Yes, the problem I’m having is that the first time after 10 pm, I get blinded for a second and then it gets set to the new level. That is what I am trying to avoid. If I just set the level, then the light turns on too. My routine could set the level and then turn the light off, but that would also be annoying if someone was in the bathroom at that transition time.
My current Wemo dimmers allow me to set the level independent of the light turning on. After 10 years, now I’m hooked on that one “tiny” feature.
The way to do this is this is to set the parameter for the default turn on brightness to the value desired by time of day. I’m not sure you can programmatically change a parameter value based on time of day with Hubitat - but I can test it shortly and let you know. I know this can be accomplished in home assistant and I’d imagine in zbox as well via Lua.
The example would be : say you have a ZEN72. Parameter 18 is Physical Custom Brightness On. Set that to the brightness needed for single tap up.
Parameter 25 needs to be set to 1 to honor parameter 18’s setting.
Parameter 34 may be needed to be set the same as parameter 18 if turning this on via direct association as well.
Then at night you have an automation to set something like the following for 40% brightness default:
P18 - 40
P25 - 1
P34 - 40
Then for the day set another automation to do the following at 7am: (for 100%)
P18 - 100
P25 - 1
P34 - 100
Again if have to verify if this is possible with Hubitat.
If I misunderstood just let me know.
Yeap, I had just discovered this, looking through the parameters to fix my issue with my Zen30, and noticed it’s there on my Zen77s as well. Came here to post it, and you beat me to it. I knew some one smarter would figure it out!
Update: I believe this is possible in Hubitat with a combination of the Rule Machine and the Basic Z-Wave Tool driver.
However I spent only a short time on it and couldn’t get it to work perfectly - but I was working with an Inovelli dimmer as my test since it was already joined to my Hubitat on the bench (Don’t tell the Zooz folks! LOL) and lost patience with the driver. But given more effort I think it would have been successful.
Yea, the AI said you have to enable diffrent things in the “manager api” settings to allow diffrent type of http commands But I have never had a hubitat, so I cant check it out
I only have 2x HC3, HC3L, Homey SHS with Bridge, Homey 23, Homey 26, Aqara M2, Ikea dirigera, Philips Hue Bridge Pro and Hass with zwa-2 and zbt-2
That’s an awesome mix! My bench is Qolsys IQ 2, IQ 4, Smarthings, Z-Box, Hubitat, Home Assistant (JS UI). I have the ZWA-2 but it is still in the box since the Zooz sticks are working well-lol! I’ve been thinking about adding the Homey self-hosted w/bridge to the mix. Looks interesting and modern.
I have to admit - I don’t give the time/love to the Hubitat that it probably deserves.
My lights doesnt not have this behavior as I can think off (dali lights and fibaro dimmer2 ++)
